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the white house or the president. there is still time. today was the last day of pride month, though it seems unlikely. the photographer here, fa breeze owe bench from reuters. we appreciate you watches us for this hour on msnbc. right now more news with mie colleagues ally velsy and stephanie rhule. >> good morning, everybody. >> it's friday, june 30th. let's get started. >> president trump hosting the president of south korea. >> there will be a meeting again this morning. could not be a more serious time for our relionsp with south korea. >> but is it planning to take any questions at this point. the first full day that a scaled back version of president trump's travel ban is in effect. the government is already made one change, fiances now count. >> if there isn't a combined repeal and replace plan i'm writing a letter to the president urging him to call on us to separate them. >> we're very confident here at
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the white house that health care gets done in quick succession by tax reform. >> we have a situation in capitol hill where the senate republican version of trump care is floundering. >> i am very concerned as to what this once again reveals about the president of the united states. it's strange. >> there is a point, and that was crossed yesterday. when you punch down and you single out people and you try to go after folks' character, i don't quite understand it. >> there's no place for that. absolutely not. >> do you endorse what the president sent out in the tweets? >> i endorse the president's right to fight back. >> its is unbelievably alarming that this president is so easily played. he's so easily played by a cable news host. now, what is that saying to our allies? what is that saying to our enemies that this president is so easily played? >> right now we're waiting for president trump and for south
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korea's new president moon jae-in to walk out of the white house into the rose garden where they'll each make statements but take no questions. we just saw them in the white house a few minutes ago making some statements. >> and that meeting has been going on, i would say, for about an hour now. among the major issues they are expected to discuss the threat, obviously posed by north korea and china's role in controlling its ally. also, the u.s. trade deficit with south korea, $17 billion last year. what that actually means. but, the photo opportunity got off to some what of a rough start when the crews and reporters entering they knocked over or hit a table and that then possibly tipped a lamp and president trump noted that in his opening remarks. >> they knocked the table down. all right. it's actually a very friendly press. don't let that get you. although we just lost a table.
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i want to thank the president of south korea, president moon for being here. we had a great afternoon yesterday. we had a fantastic dinner at the white house. accomplished a lot having to do with our thoughts on north korea. and very much our thoughts on trade. we are renegotiating a trade deal right now as we speak with south korea. and hopefully it will be an equitable deal, it will be a fair deal to both parties. it's been a rough deal for the united states, but i think that it will be much different and it will be good for both parties. so, we're in the process of doing that. we're also in the process of discussing our frankly many options and we have many options with respect to north korea. thank you very much. >> that was president a few moments ago speaking. and ali mentioned it before, we await the president and president moon to speak in the rose garden. let's bring in nbc's peter
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alexander, also nbc foreign correspondent matt bradley in london and scott asia director which advises businesses and investors on risks and opportunities. peter, we'll start with you. what the heck happened? we lost the table? >> yes. as you know behind the zains in some of these gatherings everyone is trying to be in the best shot, best position to ask a quick question, the president before you're nicely escorted out of the oval office it gets interesting. some of the reporters, the photographers jostling for position apparently knocked over a lamp. the head of oval office operations long-time body guard as it were, body man to the president keith shiler as you'll see in a different shot caught one of these lamps there that got bumped. good news is everything is as it was before they arrived. what remains to be seen is whether everything is as it was in the relationship between the u.s. and south korea. the president using this opportunity to try to make it very clear in his words that the personal relationship between
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these two leaders is very, very good. president moon now barely a month in office. president trump just shy of six months in office now. president moon to sort of punctuate the thought, the first call he received among foreign leaders came from the president of the united states, donald trump. obviously the topic of conversation that matters most as it relates to americans is this relationship vis-a-vis north korea right now. the president talking about how south korea has been heavily involved in purchasing military equipment from the united states. so it's been an important trading partner on this topic as well. this is what we expect they will address more formally a short time from now when we see the two men in the rose garden here. obviously as it relates to the missile defense system in that region, south korea with real concerns about north korea's capabilities and frankly the u.s. concerned about those as well. ali and stephanie. >> scott, let me ask you a question. the overturned table and the
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lamp might actually be symbolic of a couple of things going on. that relationship with south korea. is it as smooth as one would think? president trump making comments about how it's in balance trade relationship that the u.s. has with south korea. there's some tension over the missile battery system. and president moon doesn't have the same view about how to approach north korea's aggression as president trump seems to have. >> or maybe it was a clutsy photographer. >> or that's the other option. >> i won't comment on the lamp, but just the overall relationship i think there were some serious concerns coming into this meeting. moon has, as you mentioned, a very different approach in mind to addressing the threat of north korea. he wants to re-engage both politically and economically, try to build some pathways for dialogue. and president trump, of course, really wants to take a tough
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maximum pressure approach. now, those are not incompatible and i think that's the case that moon is probably making now that the goal is the same. the goal is to ensure that north korea does not have the type of weapons that both countries are worried about. but the approaches might be slightly different and that's something they need to work out. >> you know what, scott, we're going to ask you and matt bradley and peter alexander to hold on for a second because there's another thing that the two presidents are doing. they're having a conversation in the cabinet room at the white house. and that is about to begin. i'm just going to check in with my control room. so there's two things that are happening. we're waiting for a joint statement seeing that at the bottom right of your screen. that's the two presidents will come out and make some statements about that. now let's take a look at the cabinet room. >> okay. thank you very much. we have many of our great members, our vice president, secretary of state, secretary of
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defense, we have our some of our really wonderful leaders here and you have your leaders with you and your representatives. and we're going to be discussing two things mostly and number one would be north korea. we pretty much discussed that last night at length. i think we have a very, very strong, solid plan. and number two is going to be, of course, trade. because the trade deal is up and we want to make a deal that's fair for the united states and fair for south korea. so we'll start doing that. gary cullen is here, wilbur ross is here and i think that's a very important thing. and wilbur, perhaps, you would like to say a few things about trade right now and we can probably leave the media because trade is a very important for a little while but perhaps you would say a few words about trade and what we're looking to do. >> yes, sir. trade imbalance with south korea has doubled since the treaty was
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put into effect. the largest single component of that is automotive trade. and that's absolutely majority of it. there are a lot of nontariff tradearriers to u.s. only 25,000 cars per big three manufacturer are allowed based on u.s. standards. anything above that needs to be on korean standards. so that kind of rule making affects quite a few industries and really restricts the access that u.s. companies have to the korean market. we have the second problem with oil field tubular goods and other steel products. there is no domestic market for all three of tubular goods in korea. everything they make is export and we've had recent trade cases
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demonstrating that a lot of that is dumped chinese steel coming hot rolled coil and coming back to the u.s.'s oil field tubular goods. so there's a lot of very specific problems and i think the way to address it is to deal product by product with what we can do to change the export side and what we can do to reduce the bad import side. >> thank you very much. you can stay for this also. perhaps gary can say a few words also about trade. >> yes. thank you, mr. president. as you know, much of our biggest problem on trade has to do with our economic relationship with china. and we have maintained a very large trade deficit with china. and it continues to grow. as wilbur said, china has many predatory practices involved in the way that they deal with us
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with intellectual property and trade barriers for us. we're forced to transfer technology into china, forced to have joint ventures in china. we have tariffs and nontariff barriers. unable to own companies in china as well. and we're dealing with all of their policies. at some point we would be interested to hear how you're dealing with the chinese policies and how could help us in dealing with chinese policies. >> thank you very much. the fact is that the united states has trade deficits with many, many countries and we cannot allow that to continue. and we'll start with south korea right now. but we cannot allow that to continue. this is really a statement that i make about all trade for many, many years the united states has suffered through a massive trade deficits. that's why we have $20 trillion in debt. so we'll be changing that. the good news is we make great
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products and i appreciate very much south korea is giving very, very big orders to the united states for, as you know, for military. they're buying many f35 fighter jets from lock heed. they're buying other military equipment at a level they've never reached before, so that's good. also i understand you're dealing with alaska, great state, on natural gas and other parts of the united states. we have a lot of natural gas. so we love that you're going to do that. and things like that will bring down the trade deficits substantially. we like that and appreciate it very much. mr. president, would you like to say something before the media leaves?
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[ speaking in foreign language ] >> a right. that is president moon jae-in of korea. he's speaking in korean without a translator. stephanie fortunately does speak korean. what is he saying? >> what i found interesting actually reported exclusively sort of quote unquote trade war going on inside the white house. the president trump's cabinet is really all on the same side when they look at trade and the global economy. but now we've seen a divide again with that nationalist factor. let's listen back in. >> very good answer. thank you all very much. thank you. >> and you can see there, gary
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cohn, jared kushner, wilbur ross. but what i found noteworthy in this internal trade battle going on within the white house, the two people who spoke after president trump, wilbur ross who has been on sort of that nationalist side and gary cohn on the globalist. president trump who had been an economic adviser during the campaign and wilbur ross -- >> who is very hawkish on china. imposing some sanctions on a chinese bank dealing with north korea, this is that nationalist side that had some advances. >> it was just a few weeks ago when the president was sort of going after canada and their practices and that was the rossg secretary purdue who said, excuse me, hey, mr. president, i would like to show you the counties who voted for you. those farmers like to send eggs and milk up north. >> those who worked in the manufacturing sector who voted
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for donald trump, they see south korea as a place that sends samsung phones to america. hyundai cars to america and a lot of other product. so this is a tricky line for the president to walk. this is a major ally. south korea is a major ally. we've got 100,000 troops there. it is strategic ally. and we're in a bit of a battle with them, but we just signed a new weapons trade deal with them and a new gas deal with them. so, that's a tricky negotiation that we were just watching. >> gary pointed out two things of note in case we forget. when doing business with china, we have to have joint ventures there. we have to show them our technology. we cannot own companies there, but to continue to look at this trade battle sort of america first business of the future where you want to be, the fact that we keep going back to steel and aluminum is interesting. that is on some level yesterday's battle and the internet is the new frontier of power. alibaba and ten cent on one side. amazon and google on our side
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yet that doesn't seem to be the focussed area that the administration cares so much about. >> even the energy speech that president trump gave yesterday afternoon with riddled with inconsistencies he did boast about a couple coal sales deals to other countries that america is going to increase its coal output and sell coal to other countries. it's an old conversation. it's very important to those people who are in the coal mining business, but it's an old conversation. >> that's what's so interesting because all of those jobs are wildly important, but again the coal industry is small and if you want american success in the future, it's not environment tally sound but more importantly it's not economically sound. natural gas is simply cheaper. so when you keep going back to coal, i realize it's a campaign promise. there's enthusiasm around it. >> for the 15,000 people who work directly in the coal mining industry, it's absolutely crucial to them. >> absolutely. >> this is a big problem. >> their jobs and their livelihood do matter. but if we're talking about global importance in business, it's noteworthy that that is one
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that the president continues to go back on. remember, i think it was just a few months ago that gary cohnn record says it d make much sense to be in the coal industry. he has since walked back that. >> i want to show you a pole that we got by the way that talks about where the world sees confidence in global leaders. 22%, according to pew have confidence in president trump. 27%, a greater number, have confidence in president putin and 64% have confidence in president obama. nice to have confidence president obama is not the president anymore. but this is a survey of citizens in 37 countries taken now. >> i wonder what confidence in what? confidence in getting something done? >> feels like a broad question, doesn't it? >> it's a broad question. >> confidence in what? >> you may like or dislike president putin but may say, yeah, i think that guy can get things done. he wipes out opponents, he can get things done. we are awaiting, that's a picture of the rose garden in
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the white house, we're awaiting those two presidents to come outside and tell us a little more about what they've been discussing, although we now had two opportunities to hear them. i think what the take away is that they want to come to some agreements. north korea is a major issue, but trade is a major issue for these two countries. i think kelly o'donnell is standing by. kelly, tell us what you're hearing from these conversations. by the way, we've also got matt bradley and scott semen the asia director at the ur asia group. >> i'm glad you didn't get taken down by the lamp. >> reporter: it was not my turn to be in there today. thankfully the lamp is in tact and nothing was broken. it is crowded here in the rose garden as well on a sun-drenched day. this is part of president trump's use of sort of the trappings of the white house. it was not expected that the cabinet room conversation and exchange that you saw on camera was going to be on camera. that was added on to the schedule. being here in the rose garden was a planned event to be on
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camera televised with a sizable press contingent representing south korea and of course the usual united states group as well. and this is where the president is able to use the white house as a backdrop to try to sort of be the host as well as a foreign leader in the sense of interacting with president moon. you talked about the key issues. north korea the conversations there are probably the most urgent and most critical and yet those are the things we'll hear the least about because of the sensitive nature of that. and of course south korea is in gravest concern about any provocations that have continued and where things stand. the united states also talking about the fact that the u.s. is prepared to do what's necessary to stop north korea from advancing its nuclear ambitions. that is very serious content that they're talking about today. and then on trade, that's an area that's certainly boosted president trump when he was a confidence. and the trade relationship with south korea, as you have both
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discussed and really informative detail is so critical. can they resolve that today? that is a big part of this meeting. president moon has been staying across the street at the blare house. he has had an opportunity to meet with congressional leaders. this is a full visit for president moon. he was the first leader to receive a white house dinner as a sign of respect. the president had entertained chinese president at mar a lar go but the first state dinner honoring a foreign leader went to president moon. those gestures say a great deal and that's something to consider in this. we will have the translation, of course, because president moon will be speaking in his own language, not in english. be ready for that. we're told not to expect any questions here. but i think given all of the urgent issues both international and then some of the domestic concerns expect some questions to be shouted. we'll see if the president is in a mind to respond today.
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sometimes he does. we'll watch for that. but this is a opportunity for president trump to try to re-enforce a new relationship with the president of south korea also new to office. so two new leaders trying to set a course for their two nations. >> from president moon's perspective, what's at stake there? what's his priority? >> well, president moon has come into office with something of a role reversal that you can see here. maybe not unlike ali was talking about a lamp switching places with the side table. there's some symbolism. president moon is the first liberal to be leading south korea in about a decade. and under obama, it was conservative president park geun-hye. now we're seeing a real role reversal with a conservative u.s. president partnering up with mr. moon. now, this is not just a clash of policies. this is a clash of personalities because president moon is very much a by the book studied politician who knows what he's talking about, who has a very
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strong sense of discipline and of decor rum. that's going to fly in the face of everything that trump represents especially in the past couple days and some of the questions that kelly o'donnell are likely to be shouted at the president. that might be taking president moon off guard as he landed here to this surprise revelations of everything that donald trump had been tweeting and saying about reporters and journalists here in the united states. so we can expect sort of a clash of personalities. but again, president moon is really going to be making a priority about this trade deal. donald trump has come out already and said that they're going to be renegotiating a trade deal that has benefitted south korea quite a bit. donald trump ran on dismantling this trade deal and many others like it. remember, before this trade deal was signed back in 2012, the u.s. trade commission said that this would add $10 billion to u.s. exports from south korea. instead, south korean exports to the united states have dropped by $3 billion.
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contributing to what's now a $27.7 billion trade deficit between the u.s. and south korea. and as we just heard from wilbur ross, the secretary of commerce, he said they want to go point by point negotiate product by product and redo this entire trade negotiation with south korea. president moon is probably not going to like the sound of that and he's going to do anything he can to block that from going on. ali. >> let me just ask you this, scott, given generally speaking the state of a strong relationship with south korea, it is one of the stronger relationships we have, we have u.s. troops there and they are a major ally, is this -- what's your assessment of this evaluation? you have wilbur ross talking about going piece by piece as matt bradley said. you have gary cohn talking about trade with south korea. but really we're at the highest state of tension that we've been at with north korea in a long time. how do you assess the way this conversation has been going? >> just a couple of things.
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one is the fact -- i thought it was interesting that china figured quite largely in the comments, is sense that there's a lot of work to be done in the trade relationship with china. so of course they led off by talking about the trade deficit with south korea and the need to renegotiate of course fta is of course something moon will take back to seoul and have to think hard about. but the mention of china as potentially the larger problem and then the u.s. saying that it's something that they think maybe the u.s. and south korea need to work together to address, i thought that was quite interesting. so it was kind of saying that we have this bilateral issue we have to work through but we also have this other issue that we can work on together. so i thought that was quite balanced. and, you know, on the north korea side of the equation, again, i don't worry about the alliance as a whole,efinitely these are two men who have different approaches, but what
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moon has said quite consistently is not that he's looking to renegotiate the alliance or erode the strength of it, but that south korea really does need to play more of a role. if things go bad, south korea is going to bare the brunt of whatever catastrophic occurs of what he is trying to say as allies we need to work together but when we have disagreements we also need to have the space to work through that and that the u.s. can certainly lead on a lot but this is essentially a problem on south korea's doorstep and south korea needs to have a more -- a bigger role in addressing together with the u.s. >> do you think the comments that were made by wilbur ross by gary cohn as you mentioned how sensitive things are with china are the kind of things that xi jinping would want to respond to? remember it was back just a few months ago when they met at mar-a-lago they were supposed to
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embark on this 100 day trade review and that 100 day mark is coming and the white house seems to be making some statements. >> definitely. it seems to me the week of kind of slapping china around a bit. i think the frustration in the u.s. has increased since xi jinping and trump met and there was this agreement to work together to do more to pressure north korea. the u.s. since then does not feel that china has really stepped up to the plate. so we've seen some sanctions placed on chinese companies by the treasury department. we've seen talk about selling more arms to taiwan an incredibly sensitive topic to the chinese. and then the mention of this problem with china and trade. in many ways that may reflect the fact that china has often expressed its opposition to decisions that other countries
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have made by putting pressure on their businesses. and what we've seen is that as the korean government has moved ahead with the decision to put this fade missile anti-missile defense system in place that china has been putting a large amount of pressure on korean firms with exposure to china. and that's something that both ko and the u.s. have said is unacceptable. so we'll see how the two countries maybe talk more to china about that behavior. >> hey, christian welker is with us. kristen, yesterday was all about the tweets when it was actually supposed to be about health care and energy, both. is there any fallout to that? and is that affecting the president's ability to get things done, this discussion with the president of south korea tends to be a uniquely white house matter? it's not a legislative matter, so he gets to do that. is there any fallout that
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they're feeling in the white house? >> reporter: it's a great question. it's a question i would like to ask the president. he's not taking any questions today. these are just going to be joint statements. there is no doubt that that tweet storm yesterday stepped on the president's own agenda. remember yesterday the travel ban went into effect. he started his meetings with the south korean leader and of course north korea at the center of that, north korea's recent provocations the white house announcing a new round of sanctions against chinese bank that they feel as those propping up north korea. those are the issues that the white house wanted to be talking about not to mention health care and energy as you just mentioned, but instead they spent the day on defense explaining the president's comments on twitter, defending them, insisting that he is someone who is going to fight fire with fire and that is why he got elected. but the question from a legislative perspective for this president is will it hurt him as he tries to get these very difficult pieces of legislation passed? so again that's what weld we would like to ask president
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trump before he steps before the podium hopefully in a few minutes. a little bit of color, some of his top advisers just started to come in to the rose garden. so it is possible that this is going to get under way shortly and we are anticipating remarks from both him and the president of south korea. >> and we just saw kellyanne conway walk behind you. both presidents will take a couple questions you expect? >> no, no, they won't. >> they will not take any questions. >> these are just statements. and it's worth noting that typically what we see when two leaders come to the rose garden is a joint press conference. so both leaders will take a couple of questions, usually two reporters per country get to ask a question. president trump, the president of south korea not going to be taking questions. they're going to give joint statements. we saw this last week when president trump met with another foreign leader. so this is to some extent a break with tradition. i can guarantee we will likely be shouting questions at the end of their remarks. we certainly have a lot of them,
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ali, after yesterday all the developments not only on the tweets that we're talking about but again over health care. has the president changed his strategy on health care. today he talked about focussing on repeal. is he changing his strategy there? he got a shouted question about that in the oval office earlier today. and he declined to answer that. so that's one of the other big questions. what is his strategy moving forward when it comes to health care? >> the meetings that the president has with these foreign leaders are noteworthy because there's been a lot of criticism when he is with his interacting with more autocratic types or much more -- comfort zone for the president, yet the meeting with nato allies that took place in europe just a few weeks ago a little bit more tense. >> right. >> and the president did accept an invitation. just a couple weeks from now to celebrate bastille day in france with macron. macron did a little bit of trump trollingn that twitter recently. ink it was with arnold schwarzenegger and the preside himself has been a tough talker. but joe and mika this morning had some comments about what foreign leaders must be thinking
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right now. we have to put in perspective, it's a very, very tense time between the president and joe and mika. take a look. >> it is unbelievably alarming that this president is so easily played. he's so easily played by a cable news host. now, what is that saying to our allies? what is that saying to our enemies that this president is so easily played? >> well, you know, we -- really we got actually a lot of texts, a lot of calls actually from ambassadors and leaders that we've known through the years across the world just expressing shock. and that's when you go from going -- you know what, this is -- that's just donald. we've known donald for 12 years. when you're getting e-mails and calls and texts from people across the world saying we stand by you like we're a sovereign state, we stand by you, "morning joe" the republic of "morning
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joe". >> we stand with mika. >> we stand by you. we stand by mika. we stand by the show. this is shocking. we don't even know how to respond to this as a country. we don't know how to deal with this guy. and we have friends inside the white house that have told us over the past month they're getting more concerned about his emotional state and also more concerned at the same time -- >> self control. >> about what's happening across the world. there are bad things brewing across the world, which we can't say on the air. they know the d.o.d., but this is one of the most dangerous times in recent american history, and we have a president who is attacking a cable news host because she dared make a joke about a "time" magazine cover. >> that of course joe and mika
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commenting this morning. remember, president obama when he was leaving the white house he did warn -- he spoke to president trump and said north korea, the massive risk that is north korea and following president trump's yesterday, this is not the typical media going after the president and democrats saying they're offended. we saw a number -- ben sass, lindsey graham, lisa mer cow ski, senator collins all coming out -- >> there were two people defending the president. sarah huckabee sanders and the president of the national committee and president trump's family. >> and kellyanne conway. excuse me, maybe his sons. but ivanka trump who is brief -- whose platform she is an advocate for women and girls, she was silent on that -- >> and the first lady whose brief is to fight cyber bullying. >> i think she may have changed what her focus is now, but she has made comments in the past of what a terrible impact cyber bullying is. so the question is going to be, what is the fallout from
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yesterday? is this another donald being donald or the world is looking at this at a time when there are major geopolitical risks when health care and tax reform is on the ageneral ad a question about get focussed, get to work. that is what lindsey graham was saying yesterday and ben sass. this has got to stop. >> there's an agenda, this is energy week. nobody knows it's energy week. we have a health care bill that didn't pass and we're not talking about that because we're talking about other things. those of you just joining, just to understand why on the left of your screen you're seeing the white house rose garden. we're expecting president moon jae-in from south korea in the cabinet room with the president and cabinet secretaries right now discussing several matters and there are lots of important matters to discuss if you're south korea and the united states. earlier they had a photographic moment in the white house. i want to bring? scott seaman who is standing by the asia director at ur asia group. scott, people just joining us,
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fundamentally what are the issues between the united states and south korea that need to be dealt with today? >> so, one is definitely the problem of north korea and how to cooperate to address it. the north korean regime is determined to get an icbm that can hit the continental united states equipped with a warhead. and that is a process that is on going and they're getting closer to that end goal. so that's number one. for the united states and also for south korea, which of course, is already under threat. the second, the trade relationship of course is high profile for both presidents. and president trump wants to make headway in this commitment to reduce u.s. trade deficits with countries around the world. so, he's been talking for a long time during the campaign and afterwards that at some point the u.s. and korea need to sit down and renegotiate this trade agreement, which apparently they
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have decided to do. so, you have both big trade agreement and then this what i think is a much graver problem dealing with a chronically belligerent and dangerous regime in north korea. >> and fundamentally there is a -- i don't know how big a deal is this, there's a difference in the way the president of south korea sees the relationship with north korea or at least how to deal with its aggression than the way donald trump does. >> can you actually walk us through that? >> yes. so, the president of korea moon has said that he wants to ensure that as pressure is being put on north korea and we're talking about economic pressure, diplomatic pressure, even military pressure in the sense of continuing military exercises around the region, around the peninsula, that there needs to be opportunities created for dialogue. and that is not only dialogue with the regime in north korea
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but also more opportunities for people in south korea to talk directly with people in north korea. the idea is basically to open up channels of communication, create new ideas, new pathways for resolving tension that may not be something that either government can solve on its own or simply in government to government talks. so, it's just kind of a nuanced approach. again, it's not a difference in goal because on the goal of ensuring that north korea freezes these programs and eventually gets rid of all of thes nuclear and ballistic missile weapons that it has, that's the same. but moon wants to take a broader and more nuanced approach and the u.s. is wary of that. >> all right. we're going to take a quick break. kristen scott stand by. right now you are watching the white house rose garden and any minute now president trump and the south korean president will give a joint statement following
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president trump and the south korean president are about to walk out to make their joint statement, which we are going to bring to you live. >> and you can see they're all there, vice president mike pence is there. i believe we just saw secretary of state rex tillerson, gary cohn in the front row who just a few minutes ago he and secretary of commerce wilbur ross were making comments about the trade deficit. and the complicated trade relationship between our two countries. >> and donald trump, i will give him credit in the fact that he has a fairl consistent approach to discussing trade with even our strongest allies in a place like south korea where many people will say don't get into a trade spat with them because we have a lot of troops in south korea and we have a very aggressive situation with north korea. and president trump says, you know what, we're going to talk about north korea. we're going to talk about how to deal with them and the fact that we have a trade deficit with south korea. it's unorthodox. >> it's unorthodox. listen, the president's message is somewhat consistent. >> yes. >> he said, listen, how can we
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do business with other country never want to do business when we are put in a disadvantaged position. so great to trade. glad to be part of the global economy but let's talk trade. there the president senior adviser jared kushner in the front row. >> and i just want to quickly let you know dr. hay worth is with us a former u.s. member of congress. she's a member of the donald trump for president advisory board or was just because you're here and we're talking about this and you and i -- you're here to talk to us about something different, but i notice you nodding when we said it's an unorthodox approach to diplomacy and trade. >> well, it's one we haven't seen in a long time to be sure. and as a member of the board of the independent women's forum as well, one of the chief things we talk about is that we have such a need across the country for a new economic approach and that does include a trade policy that puts american workers at more of
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an advantage than they've been in a number of years. so i think -- >> specifically what is it about the american worker that he or she is disadvantaged today? >> well, for one thing, i mean, we've all seen or manufacturing sector diminish in many ways over the years. some of that maybe can't be fully brought back, but really there's no limit to the imagination that we could apply to that challenge. as you know, i'm a physician. i'm female physician ever elected to the house. we want to talk about health care at some point. one of the challenges we have and i say this as a physician, our health care however we consider it is too costly. >> yes. >> and it makes the cost of american labor -- >> it is more than double the average cost of all other developed countries, in some cases almost three times the cost. >> exactly. exactly. and we're not getting value for money for that. there are a lot of ways that we could do it better. >> and the senate bill is doing it better?
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>> the senate bill is a good start on doing it better. could we do even more? absolutely. and because of the reconciliation mechanism that unfortunately the american public, the constituents i served didn't want to hear about process. i get that. they don't want to hear about parliamentary procedure, but we have in the senate right now as everybody knows at this point you need 60 votes in the senate to bring a bill to the senate floor for a vote. >> yeah. >> at which point a simple majority of senators can pass it. >> right. >> but it can be blocked if you don't have those 60 votes. right now they don't have 60 votes. >> but what about the senate bill? but what about the senate bill works -- excuse me. >> hold that thought for a moment. there we go. we've got president trump and the president of south korea walking toward the mike for their comments in the rose garden as kristen welker told us, they will not be taking questions.
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>> thank you very much. melania and i are honored to lcome president moon of south korea and his lovely wife madame kim to the white house. mr. president, let me be the first to congratulate you on your election. tremendous election victory. and also the people of south korea for providing such an incredible example of democracy for the world to see. it was very exciting i must say and congratulations. this morning president moon and vice president pence laid a wreath at the korean war veterans memorial to commemorate the 67th anniversary of the korean war. it's a beautiful ceremony. we will never forget that americans and koreans bravely fought and died together for a
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free korea. to the korean and american veterans of that war, great people. we are eternally grateful for your service and your sacrifice. more than six decades after our partnership was forged in the fires of war, the alliance between the united states and south korea is a corner stone of piece and security in a very, very dangerous part of the world. the link between our countries cemented in battle is now also tied together by culture, commerce and common values. together we are facing the threat of the reckless and brutal regime in north korea. the nuclear and ballistic missile programs of that regime require a determined response.
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the north korean dictatorship has no regard for the safety and security of its people or its neighbors and has no respect for human life. and that's been proven over and over again. millions of north korea's own citizens have suffered and starved to death. and the entire world just witnessed what the regime did to our wonderful otto warmbier. i thank president moon for expressing his condolences on the travesty of otto's death. our thoughts and our prayers remain with his wonderful family. the era of strategic patience with the north korean regime has failed. many years that has failed.
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and frankly, that patience is over. we're working closely with south korea and japan as well as partners around the world on a range of diplomatic security and economic measures to protect our allies and our own citizens from this menace known as north korea. the united states calls on other regional powers and all responsible nations to join us in implementing sanctions and demanding that the north korean regime choose a better path and do it quickly and a different future for its long-suffering people. our goal is peace, stability, and prosparety for the region. the united states will defend itself, always will defend
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itself, always. and we will always defend our allies. as part of that commitment, we are working together to ensure fair burden sharing in support of the united states' military presence in burden sharing is a very important factor. a factor that's becoming more and more prevalent, certainly in this administration. we're also working to create a fair and reciprocal economic relationship from when the u.s. c korea trade deal was signed. in 2016, you know who signed it, you know who wanted it. our trade deficit with south korea has increased by more than $11 billion. not exactly a great deal. i was gratified to learn about the new investment south korean countries are making in the
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united states. this month, a first shipment is being sent of american liquefied natural gas to south korea in a deal worth more than $25 billion. it's great. we will do more to remove barriers to reciprocal trade and market access. we talked last night and today about some toughrade issues. like autos and steel. and i'm encouraged by president moon's assurances that he will work to create a level playing field so that american workers and businesses, and especially auto makers can have a fair shake at dealing with south korea. south korean companies sell cars in america. american companies should have that same exact privilege on a
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reciprocal basis. and i'm sure we'll be able to work that out. in addition, i have called on south korea to stop enables the export of dumped steel. these would be important steps forward in our trading relationship. very important steps. they have to be made. not fair to the american worker if they are not. and they will be. our teams are going to get to work on these issues. and they're going to sign a deal that's great for south korea and great for the united states. mr. president, i'm thrilled you are here today and deeply honored that you choose to go to the united states as your first foreign trip as president. i greatly enjoyed our dinner last night. and the many productive discussions that we've already started having today. i look forward to working with
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you for many years to come. to strengthen our alliance, protect our citizens from common threats, and deepen the enduring bonds of friendship between americans and the great people of south korea. thank you very much, president moon. thank you. [ applause ] >> translator: let me begin by expressing my deep appreciation to president trump for invooiin me to the white house and extending a warm welcome. when i was elected last month, president trump was the first foreign leader to give me a congratulatory call. after going through such a
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journey, the korean people finally achieved victory, the words of president trump conveyed the warmth of the american people's hearts for what we've accomplished in korea. tr we have surmounted difficulties towards peace and prosperity. you gave your support, once again let me take this opportunity to thank you, mr. president, and the american people. in my first foreign conversation with president trump last may, he came across as a man of determination and pragmatism. leaving me a powerful impression. and yesterday and today, i had a candid and lengthy conversation with president trump, and i was able to prove myself right. from developing the iraq/u.s. alliance resolving the nuclear issue to building lasting peace on the peninsula, i affirm
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president trump's unswerving commitment and we were able to build a broad consensus. during my visit, president trump and i were able to forge friendship as well as deep mutual trust. as we endeavor to tackle numerous challenges ahead of us, this will give us a solid foundation to rely on. first, president trump and i agreed that only strong security can bring about genuine peace. through c we concurred to strengthen our overwhelming deterrence. the threat and provocations by the north will be met with a stern response. the gravest challenge confronting our two nations is the nuclear and missile threat posed by north korea. president trump and i decided to place a top priority on
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addressing this issue and coordinate closely on relevant policies. to this end, our two leaders will employ both sanctions and dialogue in a phased and comprehensive approach, and based on this, we both pledge to seek a fundamental resolution of the north korean nuclear problem. the north korean nuclear issue must be resolved without fail. north korea should by no means underestimate the firm commitment of korea and the u.s. in this regard. i also urge pyongyang to promptly return to the negotiating table for denuclearization of the korean peninsula. national security leaves no room for either compromise or concession. on this occasion, the u.s. and president trump's firm resolve for the alliance is noted with great appreciation. the republic of korea for its part, will strive to strengthen
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our defined defense capabilities at the same time by pursuing defense reform, build up its own capacity to defend itself. as we undertake these endeavors, bilateral cooperations i hope will gather further traction. second, economic partnership between our countries forms an essential pillar for future oriented developments of the alliance. we both agreed on this view. economic growth and job creation will be promoted to insure our peoples enjoy greater mutual benefits through the collective efforts we've committed to make. third, as we fight against terrorism and other global challenges together, the alliance as agreed by ourselves will be broadened and developed into global partnership. as we move forward, our two nations will work towards establishing high level strategic consultation mechanisms in diverse areas of interest. to make it happen, concrete
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actions will be formulated in close concertation. i wish to extend my condolences to the family of mr. warmbier. i deeply sympathize with americans who are saddened that they were not able to defend their fellow citizen. as a former human rights attorney myself, i am keenly aware of the significance of human rights as the universal value of humanity. to make sure such tragedy never repeats itself, our two nations will cooperate with the community of nations to promote human rights in north korea. i also invited president trump to visit korea this year and he graciously accepted my offer. mr. and mrs. trump's visit to
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korea will once again demonstrate not only our friendship but ao the int intinimate bond. your visit will define our partnership. i will see to that myself. once again, mr. president, i extend my sincerest gratitude to you and the first lady for such warm hospitality, thank you. [ applause ] >> take care, everybody. thank you very much. >> you can hear reporters shouting out questions but now chance. that is president moon of south
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korea and president trump following their joint statements. this is the first meeting the two have it. >> that's it for us, we're out of time, thanks for watching this hour of "msnbc live." see you. >> we're going to see you tomorrow, though. >> i'm going to see you later on, 3:00. >> you see him all day long. i'll see you tomorrow at 12:30. now let's send you back down to d.c. with peter alexander who is hosting andrea mitchell reports. thanks so much. good day to you i'm peter alexander in this afternoon for andrea mitchell. president trump and south korean president moon just wrapping up their remarks in the rose garden. president moon pledging to stand with the united states to put pressure on north korea to stop north korea's nuclear threat. among the headlines we just heard, president trump said the relationship between the two is the cornerstone of peace and security in that dangerous part of the world. he referred to north korea as a menace, saying the regime there was both brutal and reckless and said it had no respect for human


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